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Coming Together

June 27th, 2004 12:00pm. RC

I’m about 3/4 finished putting it together. I’ve had two problems…. first, nesail.com sent me 14″ servo extensions when I only needed 4″ extensions. The extra 10″ is a pain to stow away on such a small plane so I went to Kenvil Hobbies and bought 6″ extensions. They fit great. Second thing: I couldn’t figure out how to use the (very pretty) colleted prop adapter. In the process of trying to figure it out, I broke it. So I bought a new Master Airscrew prop adapter at Kenvil Hobbies. It works great except I needed an extra washer as a spacer; 15 minutes of swearing to myself in the nuts and bolts aisle and I found what I was looking for, a single 6mm washer.Most of the decals are on. I wasn’t going to put the decals on because I want to do it de’art for Burning Man, but I realized that they are an important structural element of the plane. They offer protection for the underbelly and most especially, the decal is 3/4 of the hinge for the elevons. Before I cut out the decals, I traced them on a sheet of clear plastic, so I might make another set of decals out of a material and appearance more of my choosing.

I ran the motor. Wooeee, it’s windy! I had trouble holding it in my hand, it pushed so hard! I think it might offer more thrust than the weight of the plane! Woo hoo, hangin’ on the prop is a possibility…. well, except that it’s a pusher plane, but I’m sure you still share my enthusiasm.

While putting the Deans Ultra connectors on the LiPoly battery, I accidentally shorted it for about 2 seconds! Yipe! It didn’t just spark, it fully arced, slightly pitting my Radio Shack holder thingie. Now, all I can think about is how HForo69 (an AIM flying buddy) told me how damaged LiPolys can burn out cars and burn down homes! Before I went to bed, I put the battery on the cement floor of the garage and put a big ceramic jar on top of it. (Thanks for the jar, Melis ;-)

I did some math on http://brantuas.com/ezcalc/dma1.asp and ass-u-ming that my batteries can do 10C… this isn’t for sure, the previous generation could do 6C and the new ones are supposed to do 10C… but I don’t even know for sure that I have a “new” one. It says “6/4/04″ on it which I suppose is the manufacture date, but that could be the assembly date or….
So, assuming the battery can do 10C, this plane will totally rock:

  • 3S TP2100 battery
  • Mega AC 16/15/4 motor
  • 6×4 APC prop
  • 20.2 amp draw
  • 19,400 RPM prop
  • 196 watts in
  • 167 watts out
  • 85% efficiency
  • prop static thrust: 32 oz
  • prop pitchspeed 74 mph
  • full throttle duration: 6:14 minutes

The plane has a flying weight of about 20 oz :-)

Projeti Arrival

June 15th, 2004 12:00pm. RC

Arrival

The Projeti arrived today with all it’s parts. That was fast :-)

Notables:

  • The $80 Mega brushless motor is virtually indistinguishable visually from the $10 brushed motor. Weird… cool…
  • The 2100 Mah 11.1 V lipoly battery is considerably smaller and lighter than my 1700 Mah 9.6 V Zagi pack. I’m still worried that I’ll be drawing too much juice from it, burning out this $80 battery prematurely. I’m especially worried about the temperature constraints of the pack. The Nevada desert will be 100 degrees during the day and the max recommended charging temperature of the battery is…. 100 degrees. The max recommended discharge temp is 160… only 60 degrees above ambient temp, and with the sun beating down on it. We’ll see what happens. Maybe I won’t fly it during the day.
  • The Projeti looks to be made from EPS foam. I was told that it was “a bit stronger than EPS”. It would have been nice if it were EPP or a foam-composite or something. But no, it’s just EPS. Of course I realized this issue before purchasing, but I’m still worried about its resiliency compared to the Zagi.
  • I wonder what 70 mph alkali dust storms do to r/c equipment?
  • I’m thinking of getting flexible lighting wire and creating the silhouette of a hawk on the bottom of the plane, then covering the bottom with doculam clear plastic sheeting. That could be cool.
  • The Triton charger is 1/2 the size of the Astroflight 110D charger. Tech. Cool.
  • If I can get the twin tails to fold down (or something), the whole suitcase I’ll need to haul the plane and equipment will only be about 34″ x 24″ x 5″. Cool.

Zagi News

My second motor is on its way out. I lost another $1 prop to overheating. I’m a bit surprised at that because this second motor is a 7.2V motor… IE, it spins slower at WOT. I had figured that the first motor, a 6V motor was burning itself out extra quick because I was pushing it waaay too hard. And I was only pushing the 7.2V way to hard.

The 2 NiMH 1100 battery packs are having some trouble. I pretty much figured when I got them that I was drawing too much power from them. But I got a whole year of flying out of them, so I’m not unhappy. I tried strapping both to the plane and flying them in parallel. It worked reasonably well. The plane was heavy like a dog but it flew fine enough. I was a bit surprised when I landed the dual-pack arrangement and both batteries were very hot. Shouldn’t I have been drawing 1/2 the normal amperage? Well, as I said, the packs are on their way out… But if they’re on their way out (loosing full power after only about 5 minutes), shouldn’t just 1 or 2 cells per pack be getting really hot? Eh. Whatever.

I ripped off a winglet Monday afternoon when I landed a little hard in some tall grass. So I tried flying winglet-free. YOW, bad idea! When I went into any kind of high-banked turn, the nose would turn toward the earth and I’d lose altitude like it was going out of style. I tried doing a roll without winglets and, YIPE! I had reasonably good form but midway through the roll, the plane started fluttering down to the ground like a piece of paper, flipping nose-over-tail and such. Just zooping about, it was hard to keep it flying straight. Any sudden shift on the controls or in the wind and the plane wouldn’t know which way was forward. Bleh! Conclusion: The Zagi 400X cannot fly without winglets. I’m glad I did the experiment.

Projeti

June 10th, 2004 12:00pm. General, RC

I just bought a Projeti electric flying wing and brushless motor set. It promises to go 3 times as fast as the Zagi, still with amazing acrobatics. I’m taking it to Burning Man in August. It’s going to need a more artistic paint job than what comes out of the box. Too bad I don’t have an artistic girlfriend.

Everything is coming from Northeast Sailplane Products http://www.nesail.com

I’ll probably be lighting the plane with something from one of these companies:

http://www.glowire.com
http://www.rcneon.com

Here is a calculator for LEDs I might need
http://www.rc-cam.com/led_info.htm

What is in the mail to me from Vermont:

  • projeti plane
  • hitec electron 6 (neg), channel 42
  • 2 MX-50 servos (Sal at NESail said they were a little better than HS-55’s and the same price.
  • 2 12″ servo extenders
  • (brand name?) 35 amp controller
  • Mega 16/15/4 motor
  • 6×4 prop
  • $80 2100 3s mah Thunderpower LiPoly battery
  • prop adapter

Sal at NESail tells me that at WOT, the motor/prop draws 26 amps, 24,000rpm, 237 watts

I’m planning on getting a hard-sided archery case to haul it to Burning Man. Maybe this one on the right, from http://www.unlimitedoutdoors.com/accessories.html

Or maybe I’ll just spend $40 on this plain case on eBay

This Month’s Photo

June 1st, 2004 12:00pm. General, RC

The Sussex Air Show

parachute-in-the-middle.jpg

I flew about 7 batteries on Saturday

May 23rd, 2004 12:00pm. RC

I flew about 7 batteries on Saturday. The first battery is always the worst. It’s like the plane is broken or something. But then it (IE me) gets better.

I’m getting tired of the motor shaft overheating and melting the prop off. I lost 1 prop today. Maybe it was the inverted crash that loosened the prop but I think it was the heat. After flying a few batteries, the motor was “ouch, that’s pretty darn hot” hot.

Weirdly enough, I keep thinking about going brushless… overpowered brushless. It’s all those gas & glow jocks at the field. There I am just inching off the field and they’re pulling verticals right after take-off.

I Flew! I Flew!

May 17th, 2004 12:00pm. RC

I flew, I flew!

It’s been forever. I flew for just 2 minutes when Stevie was here a few weeks ago. But on Saturday I got to fly almost a whole battery out. (I was a little short for time). It’s so funny… The first time up, I thought the plane had some issue since I couldn’t control it well. I brought it down and, yes, the prop was on backwards. A second time up and it still wasn’t flying right. I looked and looked but the plane looked fine. So up a third time and…. well, it just took me a few minutes to get my wings back. I’m still not at 100%, but give me another 10 minutes in the air and I’ll be doing flips in no time!

Superfly electric planes

September 4th, 2003 12:00pm. Distractions, RC

Wee! Check out the videos of these itty bitty Superfly electrics

Went flying with my neighbor

September 1st, 2003 12:00pm. RC

Went flying with my neighbor, John E. and his grandson. He flew great for a 6 year-old!

Charging Zagi KR-1700AU batteries, Silicon didn’t help, new motor did, Being eaten alive!, A nice day

August 29th, 2003 12:00pm. RC

Charging Zagi KR-1700AU batteries

The Zagi Trick RC manual says, “SANYO RECOMMENDS CHARGING THE KR 1700AE CELL AT A RATE UP TO 1
AMP….SOME MODELERS REGULARLY CHARGE THEM FOR 40 MINUTES AT 2 AMPS.” This is simply not true. Sanyo’s recommendation is a fast charge of 2.6 amps. That is the exact same recommendation they give for their “fast charging” (4 mega-ohm) N-1700SCR battery, and their “high capacity” (16 mega-ohm) KR-1500AUL. The KR-1700AU has 17 mega-ohms of resistance. I now feel completely safe charging at a maximum of 2.5C… 4.2 amps… a 25 minute charge. I’m staying shy of the often recommended 3C charge because of the fairly high internal resistance in the battery. When I don’t need a speedy charge, I’ll keep it at 1C. I’ll do this for a while and then gauge (mostly by heat build-up patterns in the battery) how to modify this strategy.

See Sanyo.com or my flying homepage for references.

Silicon didn’t help, new motor did

I went out flying today with the spinner held on tightly with silicon glue. It didn’t work. I went through one battery, brought it in, tossed it with a second battery and it only went 50 feet before it started making the spinner’s-gonna-fall-off-any-second noise. FYI: the prop gets quieter and the motor spins faster, making a very quiet high pitched whir as it starts to slip. That’s the sign for you to prepare for a landing and start watching for the prop because then there’s this almost imperceptible clicky-poppy noise when the prop pops off. Now your electric wing is now a glider.

So I took the motor off and tried the Promaxx 7.2 volt motor. I bought this a while ago but never got to try it out. Actually, I’m glad I waited because swapping motors with my new motor mount was a snap… or rather a ‘zip’, pulling the velcro stays off and resoldering (with my snazzy-and-quick soldering gun). The new motor has a bit less power but it flew a LOT longer than the old motor, maybe 20 minutes per battery WOT the whole time! That’s pretty much in keeping with my style so I’m very happy with the new motor. I checked the temperature of the motor after 2 batteries and it was quite a bit cooler than the old motor. My temperature measurement is very scientific: After flying one battery on the old motor, the top of the motor (nearest the prop) was “Ow! I burned myself! [insert finger in mouth]” hot. After flying two batteries on the new motor, the top of the new motor was “Eww. I wouldn’t want to leave my finger on there too long!” hot. Using my handy-dandy temper-lee conversion calculator, those temperatures are 400 and 250 Fahrenheit, respectfully.

Now I have a motor I can rip apart for mad experimentation!

Being eaten alive!

I find myself going out between 5 and 7pm most of the time. The mosquitoes can me AWFUL at this time of the day! Today, I tried dousing myself in DEET bug repellent. Even with the repellent, I had to keep constantly walking around or I’d be chewed on by the bugs! I’ve got marks all over from where those little buggers got me!

A nice day

Julian gave this to me. It’s from several few weeks ago. I suppose I’m a tall fellow by some standards, yes?

a-nice-day.jpg

Burning through props quickly, Jaybyrds can’t fly

August 27th, 2003 12:00pm. RC

Lately, I’ve been burning up a lot of props. The black plastic press-on spinner has gone loose a couple times. Each time, I have to get out a new Gunther prop-spinner combination. I think what’s happening is that my home-made EPP motor mount and motor strap are trapping extra heat in the motor. This heat goes down the axel and melts the spinner. I think this is the case because I noticed a couple spinners where the black plastic looked like it has been deformed by heat. To fix the problem, I’m changing how the strapping sits on the motor to increase airflow a bit and following a recommendation by Kenvil Hobbies and using clear silicon sealant to glue the spinner on. I also scraped up the axel with tin snips to improve it’s bite and adhesion. The silicon takes 24 hours to dry so I’m sitting here twiddling my thumbs while it dries. Maybe I’ll also scrape out some ridges on the motor mount so more air gets to it.

Jaybyrds can’t fly

I took the plane down to my cousin Jason’s house and we flew a little on Tuesday. Before the spinner (held in place with CA) melted off, I let him try the controls. Ha. Jaybyrds are a flightless species! But that’s ok, we had fun.

Hitting Stuff

August 23rd, 2003 12:00pm. RC

Went flying at Great Meadows today. It was pretty crazy… I was trying to get inverted and… well, the battery was a little far forward, which gives better penetration and stability but decreased vertical turning performance… So I flew out away from me, did an inside 1/2 turn back toward me… and then realized that I couldn’t pull up. I went right into the roof of the little stand that holds the radio pins. It skidded up and off the peak of the roof and flopped down onto the ground. I’m very happy that no one was over there at the time, but it made me very uncomfortable. I keep telling myself that there never really was any danger in the first place; Heck, I’ve hit myself in the head with the plane while trying to catch it and neither the plane or my head were damaged in the slightest.The motor had fallen out of it’s home-made mount, the prop had gone missing, and an elevon had broken AGAIN. After calming down and getting around to laughing at the incident, I glued her back together and gave her a toss! She was aerodynamically sound but the motor didn’t have nearly as much umph as before. I was worried that the motor was internally damaged. I flew out the battery as Jason, his girlfriend, father and another flyer (sorry I forget your name!) left. I stuck another battery in and the plane was totally fine, with plenty of power. Apparently (and strangely) the battery I had been using (#3) was near empty after only 4 minutes and 1 crash of flying time. Weird.

Hey Jason, if you’re reading this…. (and even if you’re not, nya) the plane is -totally- fine! The motor wasn’t damaged as I thought. Wee!

My last flight of the night ROCKED. I’m sad that everyone else missed it! It was full of zooping and zipping, cartwheeling turns, powerful leaps, graceful slooping, connectedness, and a gorgeous sunset! I love to fly!

Oh and one last thing… It was a bit windy today. I flew 1 battery at the Allamuchy field and was having a pretty sucky time. The wind was rolling off the trees and tossing the plane around a bit. I could hold on without too much trouble but it wasn’t very fun. At Great Meadows, the distant trees smoothed out the wind and flying in the 10mph winds was fun. What a difference!

My Wishlist

August 22nd, 2003 12:00pm. RC

from The Sussex Air Showsimba-hotliner.jpgSimba F5B electric hotliner. This thing is so frigging fast! And maneuverable too! 10 2400 mah zapped cells power a brushless motor. The motor draws around 100 amps, leaving the batteries too hot to touch for several minutes. The pilot says he only gets around 50 flights on a battery pack before they’re toast.

To launch: Hold upright. Turn motor on. Let go…. straight up as high as you like. It went about 100-120 after a dive on the flats and loops like…. It’s hard to describe… It goes into the loops so fast and barely loses any speed even though the motor is off when in the loop.

simodels-biplane.jpgSIModels biplane. There were larger planes out there but this one had the most stability and commanded the most attention of any plane in the air. That thing is at home in the air like a Lazy-Boy! The engine purred wonderfully. The plane costs what you think it does, in the $5,000 range. Powerful, smooth, commanding, beautiful.

lazy-ace.jpgThis Lazy Ace is for sale by Chuck Howarth (I’ve saved his phone number). I’m very tempted! I think it was $750 complete minus receiver and transmitter.

Sussex Air Show, Battery uses estimate

August 21st, 2003 12:00pm. RC

Going to the Sussex model air show tomorrow. Yip!

Battery uses estimate

  1 2 3

previous
totals

19 0 19
7-22 1 2 1
7-23 1 2 1
7-24 1 1 1
7-28 1 3 2
7-29 1 2 2
8-12 1 1 1
8-24 1 2 1
total 26 13 28

I have to fly battery #2 13 times more than #1 before I can charge #1 and #2 together. Ugh.

Hey, I’ve flown over 10 hours! 64 flights * approx 10 minutes per flight = 10.6 hours!

Replaced battery in transmitter

August 14th, 2003 12:00pm. RC

I replaced one battery in my transmitter battery pack. For as long as I’ve had it, the transmitter was only good for just barely 1 1/2 hrs of flying time per charge. I finally tested it and found that one cell was completely shorted out, 0 volts. I think that it’s always been like this but I never looked into it. The new battery is a Radio Shack 700mah AA cell. The other batteries are 600mah cells. I hope it works alright.

New Motor Mount, Die Hard Fliers

August 11th, 2003 12:00pm. RC

I fixed the motor mount and flew on Saturday :-)epp-motor-mount.jpgI created an EPP foam motor mount. You can’t see in the image but where the front of the motor touches the foam (in the photo, very close to where the blue wire is soldered to the motor) I buried a quarter in the foam to distribute the force of the motor sliding forward during a sudden stop.

reinforcer.jpgI found a coroplast sign on the street that no one was using [grin]… (one of those awful “Lose 50 lbs in 10 days, Guaranteed!!!” signs). I cut a long rectangle of it and put it on the bottom of the plane as a reinforcing plate. I then sliced holes down through the wing to insert “GB Grip Strip” velcro strapping from Home Depot. This strapping now holds the motor in place! As well, I put strapping in front because, cool as it looks, I want to stop the battery from it’s habit of flying loose and cutting into the ground like a throwing dagger tossed high in the air during my inverted stints.

A couple times now, the battery has come loose! Just this weekend it happened too… before we put the battery strapping on. Julian and I had finished putting the motor mount on, and I wanted to FLY immediately. So I gave it a toss. I was showing off my new inverted skills over the strip when…. the engine cut out suddenly, the battery flipped 200 feet with a thud (Julian was looking away at the time but he tells me that he felt the thud!) and the plane wafted down like a giant sheet of construction paper let go from a building-top. Yea, time for better velcro on the battery!

Die Hard Fliers

I am now officially a die-hard. It drizzled on us a couple times when we were out flying. We kept watching the sky, wondering when we’d get the brunt of it. I went up and was having a blast when… It felt almost like I was getting tunnel vision. I was losing my peripheral vision due to a sinister darkness that was sneaking up on me from behind! The air suddenly smelled different. The leaves on the trees flipped over. It was time! The rain hadn’t started but I called out, “That’s it! Here comes the rain!” As I was landing and packing up, the rain started…. and then in earnest! It poured! Four of us hid in the RAMAC shack. Julian luckily had the combination to the lock, there was also a Russian man named Gen and …. oh dear, I forget the last guy’s name. We sat around talking about Gen’s diesel powered control line plane. He last flied a control line when he was 15… an old diesel :-). His new plane had a new engine on it… but it was the exact same model engine :-). Diesel engines are more efficient but they can be a REAL pain to start. While it rained, he worked on getting it started for an hour or so. The smell of the fuel was wild! It’s 1/3 ether, 1/3 kerosene, 1/3 mineral oil. The ether gives it this cool, fruity, clean smell… maybe like a doctor’s office… After a few minutes in the shack with him starting the engine, (the door and windows were open, but still…) we were all permeated with the smell. I didn’t mind.

The rain finally stopped after 1 1/2 hrs or so. We went out and Gen really wanted to get his control line flying. I wanted to see it. I only have 1 vague memory of ever seeing CL and my dad talks a lot about how he flew CL when he was a kid. He finally got it started, I held it, he gave the signal and I let it fly! It went up. And it went down. Smoosh. 5 seconds in the air. The damage wasn’t too too bad… the wing was crushed from the “Art” decal outward. :-(.

After we all moped about the smooshed plane, I whipped out the Zagi to cheer everyone up. I have Gen the controls… he asked if we were ready for a low flyby; he almost hit the shack! It was a gas! I landed on my own once in the parking lot (RE: the mud on the plane in the pix) and Julian caught it once.

On the way out, Julian’s brother finally showed up (only like 3 hrs late) with Angelina, a friend. We had a very nice time talking there.

Stunt Flying at Night

July 31st, 2003 12:00pm. RC

Stunt flying at night with no lights is dumb.          And it wasn’t even that fun :-(I have an idea as to how I can fix the motor mount with EPP foam instead of that flimsy, brittle plastic.

Krazy Rolls

July 28th, 2003 12:00pm. RC

I’m reminded of Cliff Whitney’s email .sig. “When flying upside-down, down is up and up is expensive.” Well in my case, up just got me to improve my super-gluing skills. I was working on my rolls and tried doing fun stuff in the roll. I found that the following combination puts the plane into this wacky roll where (if done right) you barely lose any altitude and the plane looks…  I don’t know… cool…:- Dive, then pull up to gain a little speed and an upward angle
- Hard turn right
- When the wing passes vertical, push the stick far-right and far-forward
- When the wing passes vertical again, push the stick far-right and far-back
- Flatten out and smile.

The plane doesn’t roll nearly as fast as just a hard turn. While it’s inverted, it gains a little altitude and it looks like the right wing (which is now on the left side) is being pulled up while the left wing is just sitting there. It looks pretty cool.

I was also working on getting really comfortable with inverted flight. I’m almost there! The Zagi keeps trying to right itself (which is a good safety release) so you have to fight it while upside-down and turning. I was trying to recover from a botched krazy roll; I tried to pull out inverted and…. well… I got my controls confused and drove straight into the ground at full throttle. The motor mount was smashed. I repaired it with superglue and that superglue quick-drying stuff.

Also, it was pretty cool when I dislodged my battery at about 100 feet. That happens when you’re inverted and wiggling a lot. Duh. The battery flew out like a throwing knife and stuck in the ground about 3″ deep. Cool. Happily, the controls were locked in a position where the plane wafted down like a piece of paper… back and forth… back and forth. Ploop.

Wow, I burned through 5 batteries today.

Battery tracking

July 23rd, 2003 12:00pm. RC

I’m going to keep track of my battery usage until both 1100mah batteries have the same age on them…. So here is a new section of my journal. Tracking. woop.

  • Battery 1: my original 1100mah ni-mh. Has approx 19 flights on it. Charged at 2.5C approx 4 times. Charged at 1.5C approx 10 times. Charged at 1C or below approx 5 times.
  • Battery 2: purchased 6-22-03. Same as Battery 1
  • Battery 3: Zagi KR-1700AU. Has approx 21 flights on it. Never charged above 3C. Charged at 3C without air cooling maybe 4 times.

Building My Own Battery Packs

July 23rd, 2003 12:00pm. RC

I wussed out and bought another battery pack from Kenvil Hobbies instead of building my own out of snazzy 1700mah Sanyo HR-4/5AUP Ni-MH batteries. I just didn’t feel comfortable spending $80 in batteries ($4.50 apiece + shipping), another $30 for battery bars, shrink wrap, wire, soldering gun, & connectors… and THEN have to put ‘em together in my lair. All that work would get me packs that are only marginally better than what I could get from Kenvil Hobbies for $35 apiece… for something like $55 apiece.

So I was picking up misc. items at Kenvil Hobbies and I just bought a battery pack. It’s the same type I got last time. So I’m going to use the new battery 19 times (occasionally abusing the charging times… just like I did on the first battery) and then I’ll start charging them in series together. That’ll be nice… more air time, less charging time.

Upside down you turn me, respectfully

July 23rd, 2003 12:00pm. RC

I flew today. I’m enjoying inverted flight.

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